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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:12 am

So it's like there is not enough time during "normal people" hours especially the older your kid gets, plus when you have a million projects on a go all at once...
Solution: lose sleep to get things done. Yep...

Diff is back up. Notice the bushings here - where the bushing material is would normally be gaps on the OE bushing. Not only this will prevent the diff from bouncing now, that also prevents the bushing from tearing like the OE does because of the possible travel of the support bar.
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Accessory belt is finally on.
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Picked up some new fluids for this season from Invision. Trying out Motul 8100 5W40 this year, and Custo race spec PS fluid (probably on both cars).
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Other than that 2019 season started, snagged a set of +30mm front fenders from Aaron. He found a set on Yahoo Japan. These will need work and cutting but you can run a 265 tire with something like that! This might be going up on the car in 2019, or later. Depends. But I have them now so whenever I'm ready to go with wider tires I have the front fenders covered :)
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And I also have a cat... is what my 8 year old child would say. But I do, first cat in over 20 years. Of course mandatory, car guy who has cat, cat inspects parts picture.
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I'm in process of installing front components: steering rack, subframe, tcase with LSD. Then just exhaust, bumper, and other minor things and the car should be good to go. Couple more long nights, and a couple day shifts and I might roll this thing outta my garage by the time the new snow melts!
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:43 am

Some less photographed update (I'm running out of time so now I forget to take pictures).
Everything is almost back on the car.
Front diff/tcase is on with axles now. I also (since the photo) put the lower arms back on etc.
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Most fluids are filled.

Driveshaft is on. Downpipe is on.
Front hubs are on... still playing around with putting extended studs on the rear hubs.

I ended up picking up the wrong package of studs for the front (yay) so what I ended up doing is swapping the +10mm studs from the front hubs to the back, and now I'm waiting on special order (because Mitsubishi decided to be different of course) of SUPER long studs for the front. The front ones are going to be almost +30mm (good thing I have open lug nuts).

Within the next couple of days I'm hoping to give the car a crank (even if it's still on jackstands).
I'm hoping for: the car starts, runs, doesn't leak anything when warm.

May 4th comes quick, and I'll still need an alignment... so this car better be nice and work :)
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby Tracker » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:08 am

May 4th comes quick, and I'll still need an alignment... so this car better be nice and work :)


Mine is still in the snowbank... :shock:
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:18 am

Tracker wrote:
May 4th comes quick, and I'll still need an alignment... so this car better be nice and work :)


Mine is still in the snowbank... :shock:


This weather is slightly concerning to say the least... maybe we will need winter tires for May 4th.
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:34 pm

Things happened, got the car running, rolling, working quite well (only issue I found thus far is my boostgauge isn't boostgauging... wiring issue of some sort maybe).

I also got some stacks of the future wide body/tire conversion.

E5 flairs for more space in the back (yay for part outs)
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8.5/17 +37 BBS forged wheels - apparently rather rare spec (yay for part outs x2)
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Got my fog lamp opening covers cut out at plasticplus out of 1/8 puckboard, haven't had time to mess around to install them but the purpose is to regulate the random air being jammed through those openings into the engine bay (I'll probably get these done this summer sometime...)
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We had both team cars out for a test drive the other day (before winter came back...).
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Next we need to get alignments done and they're pretty much ready for track.
I mean... I still need to put my bride seat in and do some little things but all in all we're kind-of-pretty-much-sort-of ready to go here.
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby colin3 » Mon May 07, 2018 2:16 pm

What did you hurt?
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Tue May 08, 2018 5:10 am

colin3 wrote:What did you hurt?


If you’re referring to my recent car accident: just muscles and feelings. This was in my daily Lancer, I switched to a Mazda3 now. Kind of tired of wrecking Lancers.

However I decided it’s not a good idea to push things too hard for a few weeks so I’m not going to Knox (too sore for a trip like that plus the event is hard just on its own).

Going back to the track on June 8th likely to do Time Attack.
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby colin3 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:36 am

Sorry to hear that Marcin.
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Tue May 08, 2018 9:05 am

colin3 wrote:Sorry to hear that Marcin.


Thanks.
It could have been way worse, thankfully everyone came out ok (with the exception of both vehicles in the collision, both got totalled).
I think life is just making me slow down a bit here and take a step back, reevaluate my schedule - so I did.
All is well, can't wait to drive the Evo at Castrol soon :)
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Wed May 23, 2018 8:08 am

More updates on the car.

I got some of my new "fancy" stuff in.

Got a Personal green stitched steering wheel and the BRIDE ProFace seat installed (such fun getting in and out of the car now... especially cause I sit pretty close to the wheel, I think I need to do a quick release hub in the future):
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Since I didn't go to Knox I had the chance to go hang out with them Evo boys at 780 Tuners Season opener, we didn't all get to park in the same place but in either case we got to showcase both cars (Aaron's car now with finished livery, soooo nice!).
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I also took the plunge and bought some OE Fog Lamp Covers that came standard on the Evo IV RS cars... There has been a set in the UK that I have been watching on eBay for I think almost 2 years... finally bought them (even though I have those puckboard cutouts). I figure since the bumper is all painted nice I should treat it with respect and throw the original fog lamp covers to complete the look and the geeky "RS-ification" (i.e look at Aaron's bumper):

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Also June 8th is still the plan for track day! For me... shakedown of the car, hopefully successful and I can maybe push it a tad in the afternoon :)
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Wed May 30, 2018 7:55 am

Wow, that was fast!
I got my RS fog lamp covers the other day.
I originally though they were coming from the UK cause I paid GBP for them... but they actually came from Japan, not that it really matters... but it's just a little extra special.

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Brand frikking new set in perfect shape.

So the problem here... is that... now that I go these I am going to have to continue throwing RS parts at this car. The responsibility has been applied by default now.

I already have the mechanical RS things such as the rear LSD diff, and the short steering rack. I'm also running the Evo IV RS ECU.
The front LSD is off an Evo VI... so not quite Evo IV RS but close enough.

Exterior:
I have the RS side view mirrors, and now the RS fog lamp covers (a.k.a. fog delete).
Naturally, next will be the RS black door handles (Aaron may have a set to sell).
Followed by RS radio antenna, on the RS models that was mounted just at the tip of the outside of the A pillar.
If I got my hands on a rear window that removes the wiper then the outside of the RSification would be complete!

On the interior I have the manual window regulators in the front (none in the rear, of course due to the polycarbonate static mounted windows).

To finish off the interior to satisfaction here are the following things I could (should) do:

RS dash (the RS dash didn't have the passenger airbag hence it didn't have a slot for it, making it a one piece dashboard instead of the airbag insert on the GSR).
RS manual heat controls - we did the conversion on Aaron's previous car; it was quite a pain to make it happen and required some re-wiring to make the fan speed controls to work, but it's doable and super cool.
The RS model also came with a different module for wiper control, removing the option of the rear wiper that the GSR models had...
I could possibly also throw in the RS doorcards, although not sure how far I want to go with that because racecar afterall and my corrugated plastic ones are more... racecarish than real doorcards...

I really hope I never crash and have to scrap this car :cry:
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:07 am

Updates and stuff:

Hankook Ventus Z214 C71 are too soft for running laps at Castrol... I already knew that, but I bought them for Knox - where I didn't go. And kinda almost ruined 2 of 4 tires at Castrol in one day. Actually one of them chunked in places so there's that.
Fear not... just don't look at bank account... I got the medium compound for my next race day which is the C51, and they arrived in time for June 22nd (already have them mounted actually).
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With all that I managed to beat my personal track record (video pending) and also reached my goal for this season (so anything faster than that this year would be gravy):
1:30.596 is my new best (pulled in qualifying laps, couldn't do it in points sessions) - which is nowhere near what the car can do so I still have a long way to go.

Found some new funky issues after the event (which may have something to do with my slower times when the weather got warmer and I was driving harder - I mean aside form the wrong compound tire).
Apparently my car now decided to spew power steering fluid out of the power steering cooler, which may have been (really... it was) partially coating my front left tire with some of that fluid (because that's the most ideal tire at Castrol to have sketchy traction on).
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Knowing what we know from the most recent Evo V partout is that on the V vs the IV they removed the cooler and just looped the lines behind the intercooler. I wonder why... hmmm!?
Thankfully, already knowing that I had some issues with that part (not as big as last time, I was going to leave this alone till next season) I snagged that Evo V part.
So, now my car has an eliminated leaking issue!
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Other than that I got the fog lamp covers installed to reduce the random air jamming into the engine bay and complete the RS look.
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One more thing to do before...tomorrow... is to install the catch can cause my blow-by is getting a little worse (running thinner oil this season, so that probably has something to do with it).

Crossing fingers I make it through this season on that motor because I don't have a whole whack of time to swap motors mid-season!
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:00 am

Here is the 1:30.596 run.
https://youtu.be/poMVF22boyM

Getting a little better a this.
Still fearful to just throw the car in a few places, that's definitely where I'm loosing time that I know and I can improve...
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:47 am

Excitements from last track day (on June 22nd).

I installed the catch can for blow-by oil. Which we determined caused a pressure issues.
I found out about my pressure issues when my dipstick popped out of the tube and sprayed oil all over my motor/downpipe = nice smoke show.

I have to say though, it the most comfortable feeling to have a fire extinguisher in the car, I was very relaxed while getting out of the vehicle and popping the hood knowing that I got the right equipment.
Thankfully I didn't need it, nothing caught on fire.

In either case we checked everything over (much thanks to Aaron here for helping me go over things - I wouldn't have known what to look for) and tracked it down to the catch can.
The fix was to loop the hose back to the intake tube and I kept running laps afterwards.

New tires, the Hankook C51 are much better (duh) I can do more laps and 4-5 laps into the race they start gripping almost the same the the C71.

I ran consistently at or around 1:31.5xx didn't quite go as fast as the time before but that's ok, maybe next time.
Hopefully I can manage this season to hit that 1:30.5xx mark again and if I manage to go lower that would be fantastic.
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby Tracker » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:59 pm

rox wrote:Excitements from last track day (on June 22nd).


You don't know how "excited" the marshals were about your car smoking (again) on the radio chatter. they love to do the cleanup! :)

Joking aside, I am glad it was minor/non-issue compared to what could have been. You looked fast out there and I think it will get better with each outing!
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:34 pm

Tracker wrote:
rox wrote:Excitements from last track day (on June 22nd).


You don't know how "excited" the marshals were about your car smoking (again) on the radio chatter. they love to do the cleanup! :)

Joking aside, I am glad it was minor/non-issue compared to what could have been. You looked fast out there and I think it will get better with each outing!


Thanks Fernando, I got much to learn still but at least I'm not all over the map with my driving.

And I DID tell Paul that I'm expecting the car to smoke again for a bit once everything heats up.
I guess I should have told the marshals directly...
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby colin3 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:57 pm

Let's drop some time by actually doing less. At least try this more than once. Maybe see if you can go out for an extra session or two with yellow so you can do some practice. Your car has power and torque so... and you might see a common theme.

Overall I would steer less, steer slower/smoother and shift gears less. Try and simplify the tricky parts. I'd suggest also to put your hand back on the steering wheel instead of leaving it on your shifter but maybe that's just crazy talking. These tips should also help your blow by issues at least a little. I've tried to add the time index to each point below the t= part at the end of the youtube video URL is the amount of seconds from the beginning of the video in case it goofs up for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=40s
Going into 4 stay in 3rd. You're probably over slowing to get into 2nd w/o blowing up your engine and when you finally get on the gas in 2nd you're almost rev'd out and shifting right away back into 3rd. I bet you're faster eliminating both shifts, the over slowing and the power from 3rd at that RPM is probably better suited anyways. You will also be able to have less steering corrections and less (hopefully no) throttle corrections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=56s
Going into 5 get on the gas gently right after the bump. Stay in 4th to smooth things out. A good goal between 5 and 6 is to get the car feeling awesome and attack 6 instead of going like stink between 5 - 6 and having to slow down for 6. Accel into 6 by settling the car before it. Being in 4th should also let you get on the power a little earlier. Turn your head and look out the right window - force yourself to in this space between 5 and 6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=68s
Going into 7 stay in 4th over 7, get back on the gas then shift from 4 to 2 at 8. Don't hit the curb on 8 it looks like a big bump for your car. If you turn in later at 8 (patience) you'll have a better line through 8,9,10 and not get so far inside on the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=80s
Going into 10 you want to have the car parallel to the track or that corner is even tighter. I think you're turning in too soon (so does the turn in cone) and that is apparent by how you drive the next corner - it looks like your're turning right before you need to and maybe before the weight has even fully transferred - again patience here. Use corner 10 to get yourself setup for an awesome 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=90s
Going into the kink - let's make this simpler and not blow up your engine. Stay in 3rd. Concentrate on line and braking. Then you'll have more brain power to get a little better line further out right, patience again, and you might be able to get on the gas a tad earlier due to not being at the very top of your RPM band. The exit will be less dramatic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=103s
Going into 1, stay in 4th. It looks like you're over braking here again so you can use 3rd. It also simplifies things and lets you drive with both hands and look ahead more. Aim for the umbrella on the left and try to maintain as much speed as you can between 1 - 2. You might need to shift into 2nd for 2 or might not. I bet you can stay in 3rd for 2 if you keep your speed up. Don't turn into 2 too early and turn your head and look out the window and try to hit the curb but don't. It's banked and uphill so you can carry more speed here then you think.


Anyways, I hope that helps. I know it will. It's cool there are so many things just I can see and you're already getting a fast time so that's really cool you should be able to get even faster and be nicer to your car at the same time!

See you next Friday?
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:39 am

colin3 wrote:Let's drop some time by actually doing less. At least try this more than once. Maybe see if you can go out for an extra session or two with yellow so you can do some practice. Your car has power and torque so... and you might see a common theme.

Overall I would steer less, steer slower/smoother and shift gears less. Try and simplify the tricky parts. I'd suggest also to put your hand back on the steering wheel instead of leaving it on your shifter but maybe that's just crazy talking. These tips should also help your blow by issues at least a little. I've tried to add the time index to each point below the t= part at the end of the youtube video URL is the amount of seconds from the beginning of the video in case it goofs up for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=40s
Going into 4 stay in 3rd. You're probably over slowing to get into 2nd w/o blowing up your engine and when you finally get on the gas in 2nd you're almost rev'd out and shifting right away back into 3rd. I bet you're faster eliminating both shifts, the over slowing and the power from 3rd at that RPM is probably better suited anyways. You will also be able to have less steering corrections and less (hopefully no) throttle corrections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=56s
Going into 5 get on the gas gently right after the bump. Stay in 4th to smooth things out. A good goal between 5 and 6 is to get the car feeling awesome and attack 6 instead of going like stink between 5 - 6 and having to slow down for 6. Accel into 6 by settling the car before it. Being in 4th should also let you get on the power a little earlier. Turn your head and look out the right window - force yourself to in this space between 5 and 6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=68s
Going into 7 stay in 4th over 7, get back on the gas then shift from 4 to 2 at 8. Don't hit the curb on 8 it looks like a big bump for your car. If you turn in later at 8 (patience) you'll have a better line through 8,9,10 and not get so far inside on the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=80s
Going into 10 you want to have the car parallel to the track or that corner is even tighter. I think you're turning in too soon (so does the turn in cone) and that is apparent by how you drive the next corner - it looks like your're turning right before you need to and maybe before the weight has even fully transferred - again patience here. Use corner 10 to get yourself setup for an awesome 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=90s
Going into the kink - let's make this simpler and not blow up your engine. Stay in 3rd. Concentrate on line and braking. Then you'll have more brain power to get a little better line further out right, patience again, and you might be able to get on the gas a tad earlier due to not being at the very top of your RPM band. The exit will be less dramatic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMVF22boyM&t=103s
Going into 1, stay in 4th. It looks like you're over braking here again so you can use 3rd. It also simplifies things and lets you drive with both hands and look ahead more. Aim for the umbrella on the left and try to maintain as much speed as you can between 1 - 2. You might need to shift into 2nd for 2 or might not. I bet you can stay in 3rd for 2 if you keep your speed up. Don't turn into 2 too early and turn your head and look out the window and try to hit the curb but don't. It's banked and uphill so you can carry more speed here then you think.


Anyways, I hope that helps. I know it will. It's cool there are so many things just I can see and you're already getting a fast time so that's really cool you should be able to get even faster and be nicer to your car at the same time!

See you next Friday?


Hey! Thanks for taking the time to review this.
I’ll do my best to apply some of these techniques, they make sense.

I definitely need more seat time to get smoother and overthink less.
I find that, especially towards the end of the sessions, I start overdriving the car with jaw clinching and white knuckling. Still quite amateur... and that’s when my line and times really go way down. Definitely something to also work on!

I’m possibly going on July 20th again. Also we will likely bring both Evos on August 5th for ASA lapping just to do some relaxing track time, and then do the Time Attack on the 6th.
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby SirSidewaystheThird » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:02 pm

Couple things I'll add on to Colin's excellent analysis!

#1: You seem to be turning in late and "throwing" the car in the high speed corners, most noticeably turn 1 (this kind of falls under Colins steer less/slower/smoother). While a nice little scandi flick can be a good way to drive an understeering car in the tighter corners, I think you would benefit from a more gentle, arcing entry phase. Think of it like the opposite of your exit phase; you slowly wind the steering wheel back to center as you increase your throttle input, and in the same way you should slowly wind the steering tighter as you come off the brakes and approach your apex. Doing this increases the radius of your line, and a wider radius means you can carry more speed to and past your apex.

#2: Try to aim for an earlier apex, especially in turns 2, 4, 6, 8, 11 and even a little in 3. You seem to be leaving just a bit on the table on the exit of all these corners, which in an all-wheel drive car means you aren't utilizing the cars greatest strength. I'll use turn 4 as an example, because it seems to be where the issue is greatest.

In turn 4, the Track Junkies novice school teaches us to brake deep, turn in late and have a late apex in roughly the last half of the curbing. This is a very, very safe line, because there are few cars that would be able to spin their tires if they got on the throttle at that apex and were tracking out correctly. They teach this line because there's that concrete wall on the out side edge of the track that will hurt you and your car if you lose the rear (or front) end. You aren't driving this line exactly, but you're not too far off. Try to turn in earlier (immediately after the final braking cone seems like a good place to start) and start experimenting with apexes in the first half of the curbing. You may have to be a little more gentle when you first get back on the throttle, but play with the throttle steer and don't be afraid to get a bit closer to the wall (or lift entirely if you think you are going to hit it). Here is a good example of my line in turn 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxggGkzhds&t=520s If you took this line and moved the turn-in point and apex a couple feet later (keep in mind the turn-in point affects your apex quite a lot) I think it would work very well for your car.

#3: I see you driving a relatively smooth line in the chicane, but this is where you want to throw point #1 to the dogs and toss the car in. Hold onto that right hand curbing just a moment longer, and throw the car at the apex with the intent of just grazing the red and white curb. You should even be able to start touching the throttle before your apex to help keep the car in line for a good exit.

That's all I've got for now, if you have any questions feel free to throw them out there!
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Re: My Evo IV GSR to RS to some kind of race car

Postby rox » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:54 am

SirSidewaystheThird wrote:Couple things I'll add on to Colin's excellent analysis!

#1: You seem to be turning in late and "throwing" the car in the high speed corners, most noticeably turn 1 (this kind of falls under Colins steer less/slower/smoother). While a nice little scandi flick can be a good way to drive an understeering car in the tighter corners, I think you would benefit from a more gentle, arcing entry phase. Think of it like the opposite of your exit phase; you slowly wind the steering wheel back to center as you increase your throttle input, and in the same way you should slowly wind the steering tighter as you come off the brakes and approach your apex. Doing this increases the radius of your line, and a wider radius means you can carry more speed to and past your apex.

#2: Try to aim for an earlier apex, especially in turns 2, 4, 6, 8, 11 and even a little in 3. You seem to be leaving just a bit on the table on the exit of all these corners, which in an all-wheel drive car means you aren't utilizing the cars greatest strength. I'll use turn 4 as an example, because it seems to be where the issue is greatest.

In turn 4, the Track Junkies novice school teaches us to brake deep, turn in late and have a late apex in roughly the last half of the curbing. This is a very, very safe line, because there are few cars that would be able to spin their tires if they got on the throttle at that apex and were tracking out correctly. They teach this line because there's that concrete wall on the out side edge of the track that will hurt you and your car if you lose the rear (or front) end. You aren't driving this line exactly, but you're not too far off. Try to turn in earlier (immediately after the final braking cone seems like a good place to start) and start experimenting with apexes in the first half of the curbing. You may have to be a little more gentle when you first get back on the throttle, but play with the throttle steer and don't be afraid to get a bit closer to the wall (or lift entirely if you think you are going to hit it). Here is a good example of my line in turn 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxggGkzhds&t=520s If you took this line and moved the turn-in point and apex a couple feet later (keep in mind the turn-in point affects your apex quite a lot) I think it would work very well for your car.

#3: I see you driving a relatively smooth line in the chicane, but this is where you want to throw point #1 to the dogs and toss the car in. Hold onto that right hand curbing just a moment longer, and throw the car at the apex with the intent of just grazing the red and white curb. You should even be able to start touching the throttle before your apex to help keep the car in line for a good exit.

That's all I've got for now, if you have any questions feel free to throw them out there!


Thanks man.
I shall also take all this under consideration.
Fact is that turn 4 I used to do more like your line, but then I changed it a bit this year. I read some stuff and started adjusting things.

It's going to take me a while to absorb all this stuff for sure (I seem to learn slow) so all in all thanks for the information and I will try things out on Friday.

One of these days, maybe, I will run that perfect lap by piecing everything in a proper sequence.
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